Comments on: Kaiser to cut 860 information technology jobs

By: Day_Trader_Now

Day_Trader_Now — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:31:08 +0000

I worked in KP-IT for a few years and left 10 years agao. I left because they were spending millions
and millions of dollars on IBM and SAIC contractors who didn’t produce much after several years and I
didn’t like it. Kaiser management spent money on remodeling buidings for them, brought in brand new
furniture for them and treated them like royalty. I was approached by SAIC and IBM to become one of
their system architects but turned them down. I guess I should have taken their offers. Preparations for major takeovers and layoffs were planned over a decade ago as I see it. The writing was on the wall. Keeping the IT workers there for the last ten years was just to buy IBM time to pull off the major conversions until it was near completion so there wouldn’t be a mass exodus of KP-IT workers all at the same time. I’m better off I guess, I became a technical analysis trader.

By: Margie

Margie — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:37:13 +0000

Now there’s a good idea! Cut the docs salaries and then have them give out meds, prep patients for surgery and don’t forget to leave those rooms clean.

By: Margie

Margie — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:35:07 +0000

They say hope springs eternal.LOL

By: Janey

Janey — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:04:15 +0000

You are all stupid. There are 3 divisions of KP. The Med Group, The Physician Group and Permanente Hospital Group. All are separate.

By: masked magician

masked magician — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:00:16 +0000

they relocate alot, which is good people get to keep their job. I hate to dee anyone loose a job.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:23:08 +0000

Anyone can comment or have any word on Dave’s 06/13 comment below ?
“[Comment #7367] Dave says:
June 13, 2009 at 10:08 amAny one have the detailed information about the coming June layoff at KPIT? Rumor says that it is about 30%.”

By: Dave

Dave — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:08:34 +0000

Any one have the detailed information about the coming June layoff at KPIT? Rumor says that it is about 30%.

By: The Grim Reaper

The Grim Reaper — Mon, 18 May 2009 19:22:45 +0000

Get over it you babys! Man up and go get another job. I was a KPIT employee for 5 years, layed around either sleeping all day at home or when I did come in which was rare because I had remote access, like everyone else in IT, I would go to my office, close the door and nap.
The serverence package? Mine was 6 months salary total, plus the annual bonus, plus all unused vacation days. So if anyone says Kaiser IT is a bad place to work its because they didn’t have the brains to work the system and they let the system work them!

By: Former KP Employee

Former KP Employee — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 23:03:39 +0000

I just saw these blogs, after speaking with former co-workers at Kaiser regarding layoffs. I worked for Kaiser Permanente, in their IT Department, and left five years ago. Outsourcing was being discussed even back then in 2004. They were slowly but surely putting in new equipment, sending us to training, and then not letting us touch the equipment when we returned. We were told that all moves, adds, & changes would be handled by the company who sold us the equipment. The writing was on the wall at that time.

I agree with several of you that the unions (especially Local 250) definitely run the facilities. There is no partnership - it’s whatever the union says. And most of the union reps that are sent from Local 250 are uneducated and unintelligent people who are former Kaiser employees.

Currently I know of one union employee who is going through a divorce and uses her Kaiser email account to harass and torment her soon-to-be ex-husband at his work. Of course she can’t be getting much work done during the time that she’s composing these emails, but will anyone even notice? Probably not. And if they did, I’m sure she’d receive a slap on the wrist and return to work. Not to mention, she’ll receive her raise on her next paycheck, while all of the non-union/non-exempts (NUNEs)and exempts will have to wait until KP is good and ready to give it to them.

In our IT Department, we once came up with the idea of unionizing, but to get everyone in California to do the same was difficult. We did the research and even met with a prospective union to represent us, but again, it would’ve been very difficult to get everyone together. We hung union signs on our doors (like in the movie Norma Rae LOL) and they were promptly ripped down by management.

Personally, I think what’s good for one group should be good for another. If KP truly wants to do a reduction in force, let it be among all groups, including union employees. There are just as many of them that are lazy and unproductive as there are in management and support personnel.

By: exkaier

exkaier — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:44:13 +0000

This is the ex-Kaiser Employee. Every 5 years, there is a new CEO and change of leadership with constant reorganization. CIO will hire new management and add new layers of management. CIO, Vice President, Chief of XXXXXX, Executive director, senior director, director, senior manager, manager, and supervisor are some of the tittles. Each manager hires the next manager to do his job.

CIO has little experience in Health Care and know little about Kaiser operates in such complicated applications, hardware and software systems. Kaiser does not promote and grow leaders from within. Failed and lost billion-dollar projects like CIS, Foundation System,etc.

CEO travels most of his time and writing book instead of managing the company.

No disaster recovery exercises for years and non-compliance with regulation.