Comments on: IBM Cutting More Jobs, Shifting Work to India http://layoffblog.com/2009/03/25/ibm-cutting-more-jobs-shifting-work-to-india/   Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:10:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Bill http://layoffblog.com/2009/03/25/ibm-cutting-more-jobs-shifting-work-to-india/comment-page-2/#comment-16787 Bill Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:45:22 +0000 http://layoffblog.com/?p=2047#comment-16787 There are many cost that can be cut in moving overseas. One is wages but there are many other cost too which can be lowered. Harassment and discrimination lawsuits cost. This is time consuming and expensive to deal with. Taxes are lower overseas. You can even see how companies more to different states because of these things. Moving over seas is not easy and it is often hard to make it work but companies do this to stay profitable. That is why they are cutting jobs now. Obama makes a lot of anti business talk but it is all talk till real action is taken then business will at that point make adjustments to survive. There are many cost that can be cut in moving overseas. One is wages but there are many other cost too which can be lowered. Harassment and discrimination lawsuits cost. This is time consuming and expensive to deal with. Taxes are lower overseas. You can even see how companies more to different states because of these things. Moving over seas is not easy and it is often hard to make it work but companies do this to stay profitable. That is why they are cutting jobs now. Obama makes a lot of anti business talk but it is all talk till real action is taken then business will at that point make adjustments to survive.

]]> By: Rick http://layoffblog.com/2009/03/25/ibm-cutting-more-jobs-shifting-work-to-india/comment-page-2/#comment-16034 Rick Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:50:07 +0000 http://layoffblog.com/?p=2047#comment-16034 To Big Blues: You are 100% accurate. I worked for any big US bank & they brought guys that said they knew this & that and in the end they knew nothing. They were protected by upper management. Our team & other application teams never saw any finished product. Window screens with no code behind them. Absolutely shameful. With one group they took the code (programs, subroutines, data files,...) and claimed it as theirs. Really disgusting. I suspect they have no guts to come clean & say they could not complete the jobs. Which is another thing I noticed in my 7-8 years in dealing with them. They don't know what to do an play spin the wheel. Am I right? Cheers. To Big Blues:

You are 100% accurate. I worked for any big US bank & they brought guys that said they knew this & that and in the end they knew nothing. They were protected by upper management. Our team & other application teams never saw any finished product. Window screens with no code behind them. Absolutely shameful. With one group they took the code (programs, subroutines, data files,…) and claimed it as theirs. Really disgusting. I suspect they have no guts to come clean & say they could not complete the jobs. Which is another thing I noticed in my 7-8 years in dealing with them. They don’t know what to do an play spin the wheel. Am I right? Cheers.

]]> By: akanksha http://layoffblog.com/2009/03/25/ibm-cutting-more-jobs-shifting-work-to-india/comment-page-2/#comment-16014 akanksha Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:34:25 +0000 http://layoffblog.com/?p=2047#comment-16014 Last week I came across that PMI (Project management institute) is holding a conference in Hyderabad. This conference will provide a chance to interact with prominent speakers & there will be media coverage. For more information check its <a href="http://www.pmi.org.in/congress/?um=10" rel="nofollow">website</a> Last week I came across that PMI (Project management institute) is holding a conference in Hyderabad. This conference will provide a chance to interact with prominent speakers & there will be media coverage.
For more information check its website

]]> By: geri http://layoffblog.com/2009/03/25/ibm-cutting-more-jobs-shifting-work-to-india/comment-page-2/#comment-12652 geri Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:42:49 +0000 http://layoffblog.com/?p=2047#comment-12652 like the saying "you get what you pay for" like the saying “you get what you pay for”

]]> By: geri http://layoffblog.com/2009/03/25/ibm-cutting-more-jobs-shifting-work-to-india/comment-page-1/#comment-12651 geri Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:34:31 +0000 http://layoffblog.com/?p=2047#comment-12651 IBM will use the stimulus money to lay off more American workers and hire more Indians and other foreigners overseas. What a shame. Which company is next to jump on the "I want stimulus money for the sake of it" bandwagon. To stimulate for what and for who, certainly not for the Amerian economy and for the American people... for sure. IBM will use the stimulus money to lay off more American workers and hire more Indians and other foreigners overseas. What a shame. Which company is next to jump on the “I want stimulus money for the sake of it” bandwagon. To stimulate for what and for who, certainly not for the Amerian economy and for the American people… for sure.

]]> By: geri http://layoffblog.com/2009/03/25/ibm-cutting-more-jobs-shifting-work-to-india/comment-page-2/#comment-12647 geri Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:46:28 +0000 http://layoffblog.com/?p=2047#comment-12647 more like when companies think cheap, they think India and other countries more like when companies think cheap, they think India and other countries

]]> By: geri http://layoffblog.com/2009/03/25/ibm-cutting-more-jobs-shifting-work-to-india/comment-page-2/#comment-12646 geri Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:43:15 +0000 http://layoffblog.com/?p=2047#comment-12646 yea, that's why IBM now wants to offer us, Americans, jobs overseas with overseas pay. Of course they know that we, Americans, are better in the field, just not cheaper in America in their money making minds. If it came down to performance, who would they prefer? Of course American's and they know it...but they will never admit it. yea, that’s why IBM now wants to offer us, Americans, jobs overseas with overseas pay. Of course they know that we, Americans, are better in the field, just not cheaper in America in their money making minds. If it came down to performance, who would they prefer? Of course American’s and they know it…but they will never admit it.

]]> By: pureindian-usa http://layoffblog.com/2009/03/25/ibm-cutting-more-jobs-shifting-work-to-india/comment-page-2/#comment-11669 pureindian-usa Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:30:36 +0000 http://layoffblog.com/?p=2047#comment-11669 I cannot agree with you. I am a pure Indian working in US in a company where the whole IT infrastructure is outsourced. It sucks BIG time ! The guys do not know how to communicate and the way they handle critical issues are horrid!. The VP still has a point that the money which he saves via outsourcing is more precious than the downtime ! Be it! The trade in is, you loose quality when critical work is outsourced! I am not saying about "Indians" as a big unit of jack asses.. I can see my collegues in US - who are very much Indian, more productive and smarter than the americans who work with me! They know the processes, are pro-active and are good in making critical decisions! So, where is the line of difference? Its probably the work culture in US vs the Work culture in India which brings the difference! Not the colour of the skin, bit the attire, its the geography which makes the difference! I cannot agree with you. I am a pure Indian working in US in a company where the whole IT infrastructure is outsourced. It sucks BIG time ! The guys do not know how to communicate and the way they handle critical issues are horrid!. The VP still has a point that the money which he saves via outsourcing is more precious than the downtime ! Be it! The trade in is, you loose quality when critical work is outsourced!

I am not saying about “Indians” as a big unit of jack asses.. I can see my collegues in US - who are very much Indian, more productive and smarter than the americans who work with me! They know the processes, are pro-active and are good in making critical decisions! So, where is the line of difference? Its probably the work culture in US vs the Work culture in India which brings the difference! Not the colour of the skin, bit the attire, its the geography which makes the difference!

]]> By: IndianQuality http://layoffblog.com/2009/03/25/ibm-cutting-more-jobs-shifting-work-to-india/comment-page-2/#comment-11588 IndianQuality Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:38:58 +0000 http://layoffblog.com/?p=2047#comment-11588 Ya, because anytime I think quality work, I think India. LOL! Ya, because anytime I think quality work, I think India.
LOL!

]]> By: IndiansRus http://layoffblog.com/2009/03/25/ibm-cutting-more-jobs-shifting-work-to-india/comment-page-2/#comment-11587 IndiansRus Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:25:27 +0000 http://layoffblog.com/?p=2047#comment-11587 No, get it right, "biggies like Microsoft, Google etc have huge staffed offices in india" because it's CHEAP. because they work for peanuts. As soon as someone else is cheaper (see Vietnam, China, ) it'll be bye bye bollywood. No, get it right, “biggies like Microsoft, Google etc have huge staffed offices in india” because it’s CHEAP. because they work for peanuts. As soon as someone else is cheaper (see Vietnam, China, ) it’ll be bye bye bollywood.

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